Last week’s #mochat about careers, markets, and getting to where you want to be was a busy one. There’s a lot of great knowledge in the transcript that really needs to be seen in context, so the summary this time is a little light. But a lot of people changed jobs, got into motion design through different avenues, and moved to get that great job. So know that no matter where you are, other people have paved the way before you. And we’re all here to help each other, so don’t be afraid to ask for advice!
Transcript
MotionChat Welcome to #MoChat everyone! Tonight we’re talking careers, markets, and getting to where you want to be. –9:00 PM EDT Apr 23rd, 2013
graymachine @conigs I ‘m like the only guy that doesn’t have one of those cool laptop stands. #MoChat –9:00 PM EDT Apr 23rd, 2013
MotionChat If you’re new to #MoChat, you can learn more about participating here: http://t.co/Wy6Go0NP7j –9:00 PM EDT Apr 23rd, 2013
RagingClaw @bendingpixels hi there buddy! #mochat –9:00 PM EDT Apr 23rd, 2013
JustinYounger I will try to stop working enough to pay attention to this #mochat Been tough lately. –9:00 PM EDT Apr 23rd, 2013
MotionChat Tonight will be open ended and I’m sure a sprawling conversation, but we’ll try to keep things focussed. #mochat –9:01 PM EDT Apr 23rd, 2013
mrmikeflorio @graymachine @eyedesyn its not where you are it’s where your goin #mochat –9:01 PM EDT Apr 23rd, 2013
RagingClaw @graymachine @conigs i dont either dude lol #mochat –9:01 PM EDT Apr 23rd, 2013
Motionworks #MOCHAT | I quit high school early, became a ladies hairdresser, worked in bars, lived in Japan teaching English at the start of my career. –9:01 PM EDT Apr 23rd, 2013
MotionChat To start things off, let’s hear about hat kind of careers and markets people are currently in. #mochat –9:01 PM EDT Apr 23rd, 2013
bendingpixels @RagingClaw what’s up Mr. Claw! 🙂 #mochat –9:01 PM EDT Apr 23rd, 2013
RagingClaw RT @Motionworks: #MOCHAT | I quit high school early, became a ladies hairdresser, worked in bars, lived in Japan teaching English at the start of my career. –9:02 PM EDT Apr 23rd, 2013
JustinYounger @Motionworks I hope this is true. #mochat –9:02 PM EDT Apr 23rd, 2013
bran_dj RT @MotionChat: Welcome to #MoChat everyone! Tonight we’re talking careers, markets, and getting to where you want to be. –9:02 PM EDT Apr 23rd, 2013
conigs Currently working in the sometimes dreaded—often misunderstood—corporate video world after being “freelance” for several years. #mochat –9:02 PM EDT Apr 23rd, 2013
RagingClaw @bendingpixels I’m learning about the careers of people I geek out over. How about yourself? #mochat –9:03 PM EDT Apr 23rd, 2013
MotionChat *what kind of careers. Not hat careers. Unless you actually are working with hats. #mochat –9:03 PM EDT Apr 23rd, 2013
graymachine I started out in recording studios and live sound, moved to audio post production and picked up video editing along the way. #mochat –9:03 PM EDT Apr 23rd, 2013
bendingpixels I studied music and business in college. graphics career didn’t start until after graduation #mochat –9:04 PM EDT Apr 23rd, 2013
graymachine Then I watched Brian Maffit’s Total Training for AE on 9 VHS tapes and was hooked. #mochat –9:04 PM EDT Apr 23rd, 2013
eyedesyn At a juncture in my career, I want to move out of DC. Freelancing means I have freedom to go where I want. Just don’t know where. #mochat –9:04 PM EDT Apr 23rd, 2013
Motionworks @JustinYounger Yes indeed. I have no formal design training. #mochat –9:05 PM EDT Apr 23rd, 2013
eyedesyn I actually got into the #mograph scene because my dad & uncle were Art Directors. Followed in their footsteps. #mochat –9:05 PM EDT Apr 23rd, 2013
JustinYounger @Motionworks even the Hairdresser part!? What a crazy jump! #mochat –9:05 PM EDT Apr 23rd, 2013
MDSienzant @MotionChat #mochat right now I’m freelancing and just wrapped up a semester of adjunct teaching. After about 3 years of running a start up. –9:06 PM EDT Apr 23rd, 2013
ChrisTarroza @graymachine if there was something you wished you did differently to get to where you are now what would it be? #mochat –9:06 PM EDT Apr 23rd, 2013
bran_dj Started out editing, & been thru all kinds of post, design and motion design shops. Now solo working w small clients independently #mochat –9:06 PM EDT Apr 23rd, 2013
bendingpixels @eyedesyn stay the hell out of hollywood, figuratively and literally #mochat –9:06 PM EDT Apr 23rd, 2013
mrmikeflorio I wanna move more into a 3d/vfx artist role … NYC is cool but I might do LA again … I just wanna be proud of my work again #mochat –9:06 PM EDT Apr 23rd, 2013
matthewsnagy I majored in CompSci in undergrad. Video was a hobby. Realized I wanted to be using creative programs, not writing them. #mochat –9:06 PM EDT Apr 23rd, 2013
SFBurning Going fresh out of school to a job at an agency where I’ve been working freelance, and scripting tools for AE in my spare time #mochat –9:06 PM EDT Apr 23rd, 2013
MotionChat When people first started out in design (or whatever lead you to design), what were your aspirations? #mochat –9:06 PM EDT Apr 23rd, 2013
jasfish @eyedesyn I’ve wanted to move out of Milwaukee for years but my wife has so much family here never been able to convince her #mochat #mochat –9:06 PM EDT Apr 23rd, 2013
graymachine @Motionworks Same here John, no design training. For me, I think that’s why I was always more technical than design oriented. #mochat –9:06 PM EDT Apr 23rd, 2013
careyd I went to a tech-savvy high school. Was into radio & TV there, studied art, photography, computer science…decided that for career. #mochat –9:06 PM EDT Apr 23rd, 2013
conigs @MDSienzant I want to pick up teaching at some point. #mochat –9:06 PM EDT Apr 23rd, 2013
eyedesyn @bendingpixels Closest i’d do to LA is Ventura 😉 That place was nice. #mochat –9:06 PM EDT Apr 23rd, 2013
careyd …got really bored early in college. Switched to TV, got job first, then school while working in TV. Learned fundamentals in 6 years. #mochat –9:07 PM EDT Apr 23rd, 2013
eyedesyn @jasfish My wife has fam here in DC but she’s now ready to try a new place. #mochat –9:07 PM EDT Apr 23rd, 2013
conigs @matthewsnagy I think having a CS or any kind of technical background is often underrated in motion design. #mochat –9:07 PM EDT Apr 23rd, 2013
graymachine @ChrisTarroza That’s a good question, what I’d do differently. Gonna think about that for a minute. #mochat –9:08 PM EDT Apr 23rd, 2013
jasfish I’d love to do one hard-core year in LA & see if I could transition into good solid freelance after that. #mochat #mochat –9:08 PM EDT Apr 23rd, 2013
MDSienzant @conigs I do recommend it. It’s been rewarding and frustrating. Like having kids 🙂 also helped me brush up on a lot. #mochat –9:08 PM EDT Apr 23rd, 2013
bran_dj @graymachine Those were key for me when learning AE as well back whenever the heck that was … #mochat –9:08 PM EDT Apr 23rd, 2013
careyd …went independent in ’90. Worked field audio, camera, grip, editor, settled on post in ’97. Full steam ahead since then. #mochat –9:08 PM EDT Apr 23rd, 2013
eyedesyn @mrmikeflorio Ugh. NYC & LA are too nutso for me. I am kicking around Denver & Philly. Close to NYC. I dunno. cc @MDSienzant #mochat –9:08 PM EDT Apr 23rd, 2013
FakeGreenDress I was lucky to get early access to software. Started with Photoshop at 8, AE at 14, basically just went from there. #mochat –9:08 PM EDT Apr 23rd, 2013
matthewsnagy @conigs I agree. I learned @AdobeAE very quickly and was able to focus on design and not fighting the program. #mochat –9:09 PM EDT Apr 23rd, 2013
JustinYounger @eyedesyn @mrmikeflorio @MDSienzant I always entertain the thought of giving Portland/Seattle a go. #mochat –9:09 PM EDT Apr 23rd, 2013
FakeGreenDress Think it was a lot easier to get started with the software back then — it was so much simpler! #mochat –9:09 PM EDT Apr 23rd, 2013
MDSienzant @eyedesyn @mrmikeflorio Philly is damn close to NYC. Definitely doable for some commutes if you want to go that route. #mochat plus Pat’s! –9:10 PM EDT Apr 23rd, 2013
eyedesyn @graymachine What helped you in your move up to Seattle? Did you land a FT gig or had enough freelance contacts there? #mochat –9:10 PM EDT Apr 23rd, 2013
mrmikeflorio @JustinYounger @eyedesyn @MDSienzant I’ve heard portland is blowin up for mograph right now … might be the time #mochat –9:10 PM EDT Apr 23rd, 2013
jasfish @caselat @eyedesyn my wife is really close to her family. Plus we have 3 kids with a 4th on the way so don’t see us moving, ha #mochat –9:10 PM EDT Apr 23rd, 2013
careyd One thing I have learned is to weigh changing markets carefully. There is always long ramp-up for independents. #mochat –9:10 PM EDT Apr 23rd, 2013
bran_dj @MotionChat Always wanted to make cool music videos (and music) … Film titles were an interest as well. #mochat –9:10 PM EDT Apr 23rd, 2013
EllsDynamic Went to school for film. Got an editing internship where I did no editing at all and stumbled into #mograph with After Effects. #mochat –9:11 PM EDT Apr 23rd, 2013
lasvideo Howdy from Las Vegas!! #mochat –9:11 PM EDT Apr 23rd, 2013
conigs @bran_dj I still want to do those things. #mochat –9:11 PM EDT Apr 23rd, 2013
MDSienzant @mrmikeflorio @justinyounger @eyedesyn that’s the downside to Philly. Doesn’t jump out to me as a heavy mograph area. #mochat –9:11 PM EDT Apr 23rd, 2013
ChrisTarroza Video editing is still my forte but I love the creativity in motion graphics and it’s something I strive to get better at. #mochat –9:11 PM EDT Apr 23rd, 2013
eyedesyn @mrmikeflorio @justinyounger @mdsienzant My wife & I are actually thinking of planning a trip to Seattle & Portland to check it out #mochat –9:11 PM EDT Apr 23rd, 2013
graymachine @eyedesyn Portland. It helps that I have a full-time job with Red Giant. I moonlight on the side as a freelancer… #mochat –9:11 PM EDT Apr 23rd, 2013
matthewsnagy I did more shooting and production work before getting into #mgfx. I approach projects with the eye of a DP first, designer second. #mochat –9:11 PM EDT Apr 23rd, 2013
jasfish @caselat @eyedesyn yeah & I don’t think my wife would be ready for the hours. At least now I’m home when I work freelance late. #mochat –9:12 PM EDT Apr 23rd, 2013
MDSienzant @mrmikeflorio @eyedesyn we won’t for long. It’s the Danny B farewell tour this season #mochat –9:12 PM EDT Apr 23rd, 2013
graymachine @mrmikeflorio Portland seems to be a dropping off point for burnt out folks from LA. I’ve run into quite a few around town. #mochat –9:12 PM EDT Apr 23rd, 2013
mrmikeflorio @eyedesyn @JustinYounger @MDSienzant 2 friends of mine just moved out there and they love it #mochat –9:12 PM EDT Apr 23rd, 2013
conigs Initially, I wanted to edit fictional features/docs in Hwood. Then I talked to enough people who went there to change my mind. #mochat –9:12 PM EDT Apr 23rd, 2013
EllsDynamic This was in Chicago in 1998. Over the years, I got proficient in using AVID, FCP, and After Effects. Worked at many post houses. #MOCHAT –9:12 PM EDT Apr 23rd, 2013
conigs @graymachine How did you land the RG job? You were freelancing in MI until then, right? #mochat –9:13 PM EDT Apr 23rd, 2013
EllsDynamic And now, I freelance in the Twin Cities. Interesting to hear all of your backgrounds. #MOCHAT –9:13 PM EDT Apr 23rd, 2013
graymachine Back to the original question about aspirations, I think I always wanted to do something that was both creative and tech. challenge #mochat –9:13 PM EDT Apr 23rd, 2013
conigs @EllsDynamic I think having worked a variety of fields (and workflows/software) helps a lot. #mochat –9:13 PM EDT Apr 23rd, 2013
ChrisTarroza @graymachine take your time 🙂 here’s an easier one (possibly) – advice for someone getting into freelance? #mochat –9:13 PM EDT Apr 23rd, 2013
_SUPERMASSIVE_ I was trying to open a studio with @jasfish, but he wasn’t having it 🙂 #MoChat –9:14 PM EDT Apr 23rd, 2013
conigs @EllsDynamic Where in MSP? I just moved here a year ago and need to meet more mographers. #mochat –9:14 PM EDT Apr 23rd, 2013
eyedesyn @graymachine Er, Portland sorry haha. So Red Giant being based in Portland drove your decision basically? #mochat –9:14 PM EDT Apr 23rd, 2013
graymachine @conigs I was in Detroit, but my freelance was dragging me further out to find work (Chicago, Nashville) #mochat –9:14 PM EDT Apr 23rd, 2013
graymachine @conigs Then an opportunity presented itself to co-run a motion design shop in LA. #mochat –9:15 PM EDT Apr 23rd, 2013
mrmikeflorio @graymachine really? I guess I only hear the good parts on the east coast #mochat –9:15 PM EDT Apr 23rd, 2013
justinhuskey @graymachine Do you find Portland to have a good market for freelance in motion graphics? #mochat –9:15 PM EDT Apr 23rd, 2013
EllsDynamic @conigs Absolutely. I never thought I’d love #mograph as much as I do, much less do it for a living. I’m glad I fell into it. #MOCHAT –9:15 PM EDT Apr 23rd, 2013
RagingClaw #mochat i went to school for art but taught myself programming and work as a developer doing self taught mograph on the side –9:15 PM EDT Apr 23rd, 2013
graymachine @eyedesyn Portland was chosen for: cost of living, schools, city size/culture, production community. #mochat –9:15 PM EDT Apr 23rd, 2013
careyd RT @conigs: I wanted to edit fictional features/docs in Hwood. Then I talked to enough people who went there to change my mind. #mochat –9:15 PM EDT Apr 23rd, 2013
MotionChat We’ve been hearing a lot about how people sort of wandered about in careers. What about the future? What do you want to be doing? #mochat –9:16 PM EDT Apr 23rd, 2013
EllsDynamic @conigs I am currently in the Highland area in St. Paul. Across the street from St. Kate’s. How about yourself? #MOCHAT –9:16 PM EDT Apr 23rd, 2013
mrmikeflorio @graymachine @conigs with the state of shops nowadays doesn’t that deter running your own place? #mochat –9:16 PM EDT Apr 23rd, 2013
conigs @EllsDynamic Live in SW Minneapolis… Kenny neighborhood. Work in NE on the river. #mochat –9:16 PM EDT Apr 23rd, 2013
eyedesyn @graymachine My wife is a 2nd grade special ed teacher so that’s also a big factor in moving; if the schools are good. #mochat –9:17 PM EDT Apr 23rd, 2013
bran_dj @EllsDynamic @conigs Same here. #mochat –9:17 PM EDT Apr 23rd, 2013
lasvideo 1. I got my degree at San Diego State in TV/Film Production. Worked cam/lighting at PBS . #mochat –9:17 PM EDT Apr 23rd, 2013
JustinYounger @graymachine @eyedesyn I wish to pick your mind sometime on Portland. #mochat –9:17 PM EDT Apr 23rd, 2013
EllsDynamic @conigs We should do what they do in Chicago: Set up a local bi-weekly get together over beers for post professionals. #mochat #withbeer –9:17 PM EDT Apr 23rd, 2013
RagingClaw @MotionChat mograph is what I want to be doing but i still lack confidence and have much to learn still #mochat –9:17 PM EDT Apr 23rd, 2013
mrmikeflorio regardless where my career takes me I just wanna wake up, work hard, make cool shit, learn, evolve my style and live happily #mochat –9:18 PM EDT Apr 23rd, 2013
graymachine @justinhuskey There’s quite a bit going on. Shop owners I’ve spoken to seem to suggest that there is a bit of a dearth of PDX talent #mochat –9:18 PM EDT Apr 23rd, 2013
lasvideo 2. Got job offer at huge post house in SLC. (CMX/AMPEX/GVG) . Dream job. Worked there 18 years. Then they went out of business. #mochat –9:18 PM EDT Apr 23rd, 2013
jasfish @mrmikeflorio amen, brother! #mochat –9:18 PM EDT Apr 23rd, 2013
ChrisTarroza @MotionChat I really want to focus on projects that I actually want to work on, things that get me excited. #mochat –9:18 PM EDT Apr 23rd, 2013
conigs @RagingClaw I think a lot of us feel that way. That’s the problem w/knowledge, the more you know, the more you know you don’t know. #mochat –9:19 PM EDT Apr 23rd, 2013
lasvideo 3. Got job offer in small video boutique in Vegas. Worked there for 8 years. Then they went out of business. #mochat –9:19 PM EDT Apr 23rd, 2013
RagingClaw @EllsDynamic @conigs I’m not a professional but I’d be down with a meet up; im only up in Fargo #mochat –9:19 PM EDT Apr 23rd, 2013
mrmikeflorio @careyd @conigs amen to that … getting paid in Hell-A is a bitch #mochat –9:19 PM EDT Apr 23rd, 2013
EllsDynamic @EllsDynamic @conigs We could even get @careyd on the scene. #mochat #withbeer –9:19 PM EDT Apr 23rd, 2013
justinhuskey @MotionChat I wanted to do something creative. I’ve done a lot of graphic design, but there’s nothing like motion graphics. #mochat –9:19 PM EDT Apr 23rd, 2013
conigs @EllsDynamic I tried doing that in Milwaukee. Didn’t pan out too well. #mochat –9:19 PM EDT Apr 23rd, 2013
bran_dj @MotionChat I’m doing it. I’d like to be doing it more profitably and be able to sustain a career for the next 10-15 yrs. #mochat –9:19 PM EDT Apr 23rd, 2013
mrmikeflorio @jasfish I just don’t understand why it’s so hard for us … but everyday we work towards something better #mochat –9:19 PM EDT Apr 23rd, 2013
graymachine @lasvideo I think it’s a rite of passage: working for a place that goes under #mochat –9:19 PM EDT Apr 23rd, 2013
lasvideo 4. Trying to fine some video editing/mograph niche jobs that I can telecommute using my great home edit bay. #mochat –9:20 PM EDT Apr 23rd, 2013
JustinYounger I made an entire level in Duke Nukem 3D’s level editor, and loved working in 3D. How I ended up in Motion Graphics, Im not sure. #mochat –9:20 PM EDT Apr 23rd, 2013
mrmikeflorio @conigs @RagingClaw and the people that know a shitload about the programs are usually the worst designers … balance is important #mochat –9:20 PM EDT Apr 23rd, 2013
bran_dj @graymachine @justinhuskey REALLY?! Seem to see lots of great folks up that way … #mochat –9:20 PM EDT Apr 23rd, 2013
careyd @mrmikeflorio @conigs In fact let’s just say it. The H’Wood dream is a mirage when it comes to post work. MHO of course. #mochat –9:20 PM EDT Apr 23rd, 2013
bendingpixels sometimes the best step to the future is to the side-pivoting in a new direction to break your mind of old habits #mochat –9:20 PM EDT Apr 23rd, 2013
eyedesyn I started as an intern at a local news station in Pittsburgh & got to where I am now freelancing. Gotta keep workin hard! #mochat –9:21 PM EDT Apr 23rd, 2013
MDSienzant @mrmikeflorio these words sound familiar! #mochat –9:21 PM EDT Apr 23rd, 2013
conigs @mrmikeflorio @RagingClaw Goes the other way, too… #mochat –9:21 PM EDT Apr 23rd, 2013
VictorDeAnda @MotionChat What do you think of the convergence between mograph for broadcast vs. web? Lots of explainer videos being produced. #mochat –9:21 PM EDT Apr 23rd, 2013
EllsDynamic @conigs People not getting along? Not enough turnout? I think it’d be great to meet with others who share talents and interests. #MOCHAT –9:21 PM EDT Apr 23rd, 2013
conigs @EllsDynamic Turnout… #mochat –9:21 PM EDT Apr 23rd, 2013
conigs @lasvideo I feel like editing is harder to do remote unless you have an existing good relationship with director/producer/client. #mochat –9:22 PM EDT Apr 23rd, 2013
graymachine @bran_dj @justinhuskey There is a lot of talent, but I think it’s expanding a little quicker than it can be filled. #mochat –9:22 PM EDT Apr 23rd, 2013
EllsDynamic @RagingClaw @conigs Pro or no-pro; come on down! #MOCHAT –9:22 PM EDT Apr 23rd, 2013
RagingClaw @JustinYounger i did the same. Duke Nukem, quake, doom, unreal tournament, etc. #mochat –9:22 PM EDT Apr 23rd, 2013
eyedesyn @bran_dj @graymachine @justinhuskey The jobs are there but just not a lot of talented mograph peeps? #mochat –9:22 PM EDT Apr 23rd, 2013
conigs @VictorDeAnda To me it’s just a different medium. Web video is still being figured out, though… regardless of what people say. #mochat –9:22 PM EDT Apr 23rd, 2013
JustinYounger @RagingClaw I wish to one day move back into video games. #mochat –9:23 PM EDT Apr 23rd, 2013
EllsDynamic @conigs We should organize something anyway. Worse case, we make connections and get out of the office. #mochat –9:23 PM EDT Apr 23rd, 2013
bendingpixels @careyd I would agree with that kinda-best advice is to diversify to other markets like corporate and medical #mochat –9:23 PM EDT Apr 23rd, 2013
mrmikeflorio @MDSienzant I spout alot of shit … but my shit is consistant. People say I should do seminars haha #mochat –9:23 PM EDT Apr 23rd, 2013
JustinYounger @RagingClaw theres so much overlap now. #mochat –9:23 PM EDT Apr 23rd, 2013
lasvideo @conigs True. In the past clients would sit with me once, then after that drop stuff off and say “Be creative and have fun”.#mochat –9:24 PM EDT Apr 23rd, 2013
bran_dj @graymachine @justinhuskey I bet there’ll be a lot of interested folks looking that way once this chat is done. 😉 #mochat –9:24 PM EDT Apr 23rd, 2013
mrmikeflorio @conigs @RagingClaw that the awesomeness of it … enough technical know-how to make your imagination move #mochat –9:24 PM EDT Apr 23rd, 2013
MotionChat So what about markets? Some people have moved around. What drew you to where you are now, if you’ve moved? #mochat –9:24 PM EDT Apr 23rd, 2013
EllsDynamic @conigs @lasvideo I do most of my #mograph work remotely, but my editing work is for local clients. #MOCHAT –9:25 PM EDT Apr 23rd, 2013
bran_dj I’ve been trying to define my market not as a geographic area but with clients who share my sensibility (and want my style) #mochat –9:25 PM EDT Apr 23rd, 2013
careyd @bendingpixels corporate and medical! Hey I resemble that remark. #mochat –9:25 PM EDT Apr 23rd, 2013
lasvideo A ful time job 😀 RT @MotionChat: So what about markets? Some people have moved around. What drew you to where you are now, ? #mochat –9:25 PM EDT Apr 23rd, 2013
mrmikeflorio @eyedesyn I started out as a green screen tech … I got my first job because I read the FCP manual cover to cover haha #mochat –9:25 PM EDT Apr 23rd, 2013
JustinYounger Chicago had an emerging scene for Motion, I moved here right at the start of one of the most active exciting communities. #mochat –9:26 PM EDT Apr 23rd, 2013
jasfish @bran_dj the internet makes it a lot easier to do that. I’ve got clients all over now. Just have to keep hustling to find new. #mochat –9:26 PM EDT Apr 23rd, 2013
graymachine @MotionChat LA was a trip. So many talented people & so much work going on. Can’t seem to walk 100 ft without passing a design shop #mochat –9:26 PM EDT Apr 23rd, 2013
xHisDudenessx I started as an intern at MAXON, proofing the R9.5 update tutorials, doing more CG, then Rigging, then Scripting. #mochat –9:26 PM EDT Apr 23rd, 2013
conigs @mrmikeflorio @eyedesyn Ah, when manuals were still printed and the box weighed 7 pounds. #mochat –9:26 PM EDT Apr 23rd, 2013
bran_dj Where I am now is purely for life reasons, and has hindered me from getting a fair amount of work (since I can only do remote) #mochat –9:26 PM EDT Apr 23rd, 2013
mdvideoeditor @lasvideo #mochat AMEN to a full time job! –9:27 PM EDT Apr 23rd, 2013
RagingClaw @mrmikeflorio @conigs thats one of the things i like most about mograph, i get to really let out my creativity #mochat –9:27 PM EDT Apr 23rd, 2013
conigs @jasfish Do you have to bring your own clients into Independent? Or are you talking after-hours freelance? #mochat –9:27 PM EDT Apr 23rd, 2013
lasvideo Now your lucky if you can own the software (ADOBE) 😀 RT @conigs: @mrmikeflorio @eyedesyn Ah, when manuals …weighed 7 pounds. #mochat –9:27 PM EDT Apr 23rd, 2013
bran_dj But I am happy with the trade-off and do not miss working onsite and 60+ hr weeks. #mochat –9:27 PM EDT Apr 23rd, 2013
mographcandy @eyedesyn DC is expensive for sure. CHEAPER places to go if you are freelance. #mochat –9:27 PM EDT Apr 23rd, 2013
jasfish @conigs I don’t work with anything local or anything that might have a conflict. It’s all after hours freelance. #mochat –9:27 PM EDT Apr 23rd, 2013
EllsDynamic @mdvideoeditor @lasvideo Indeed! #MOCHAT –9:28 PM EDT Apr 23rd, 2013
graymachine I guess the question I hear more often than any with regard to region is “should I move to LA/NYC” #mochat –9:28 PM EDT Apr 23rd, 2013
lasvideo For 30 years Ive work full time as an editor (or senior editor). On my own is new experience and dead in Vegas. #mochat –9:28 PM EDT Apr 23rd, 2013
matthewsnagy DC market is strong with govt and non-profit work. Budgets are shrinking and #mgfx is seen as a solution to production. #mochat –9:28 PM EDT Apr 23rd, 2013
jasfish @bran_dj I don’t mind working long weeks, but it’s a lot nicer to work FT for 40 & control what I want to do at home. #mochat –9:28 PM EDT Apr 23rd, 2013
ChrisTarroza @mdvideoeditor @lasvideo is a FT job really all that its cracked up to be? Not so in my experience. It’s why I’m going freelance #mochat –9:29 PM EDT Apr 23rd, 2013
mrmikeflorio @conigs @eyedesyn it was FCP HD too … before ProRes. I think that book gave me a hernia haha #mochat –9:29 PM EDT Apr 23rd, 2013
conigs @matthewsnagy “Solution to production” is a good way to put it (and not just for DC). #mochat –9:29 PM EDT Apr 23rd, 2013
conigs @mrmikeflorio @eyedesyn What was that… 4.5? #mochat –9:29 PM EDT Apr 23rd, 2013
eyedesyn @mographcandy Definitely. Move to a better market w/ lower cost of living. We’ve never met, huh? Gotta change that! 🙂 #mochat –9:29 PM EDT Apr 23rd, 2013
graymachine @ChrisTarroza The grass is always greener. #mochat –9:29 PM EDT Apr 23rd, 2013
conigs @ChrisTarroza @mdvideoeditor @lasvideo Depends on what you want out of the job and where it is. #mochat –9:30 PM EDT Apr 23rd, 2013
mdvideoeditor @ChrisTarroza @lasvideo #mochat For me, it was steady work w/ clients and I had to support a family. –9:30 PM EDT Apr 23rd, 2013
FakeGreenDress @ChrisTarroza I love being staff, actually. Makes my life a lot saner and more stable. #mochat –9:30 PM EDT Apr 23rd, 2013
jasfish @graymachine I’ve wrestled with that for 5+ years now. Hard to drag your family out there with all the unknown. #mochat –9:30 PM EDT Apr 23rd, 2013
mrmikeflorio @conigs @eyedesyn FCP3 son … hella old school #mochat –9:30 PM EDT Apr 23rd, 2013
conigs @jasfish @bran_dj Was just about to say the same thing. #mochat –9:30 PM EDT Apr 23rd, 2013
rovino evening mo_peeps! #mochat –9:30 PM EDT Apr 23rd, 2013
eyedesyn @conigs @mrmikeflorio I started on AE 5. Learned C4D starting with R10.5. #mochat –9:30 PM EDT Apr 23rd, 2013
conigs @mrmikeflorio @eyedesyn I couldn’t remember when they added “HD”. I started on FCP1… #offmylawn #mochat –9:31 PM EDT Apr 23rd, 2013
justinhuskey @graymachine That’s interesting. Maybe I should work on my networking a bit more 😉 #mochat –9:31 PM EDT Apr 23rd, 2013
lasvideo Howdy! RT @rovino: evening mo_peeps! #mochat –9:31 PM EDT Apr 23rd, 2013
agbstudios RT @Motionworks: #MOCHAT | I quit high school early, became a ladies hairdresser, worked in bars, lived in Japan teaching English at the start of my career. –9:31 PM EDT Apr 23rd, 2013
mdvideoeditor @rovino Evening to you! #mochat –9:31 PM EDT Apr 23rd, 2013
ColtonGeil @EllsDynamic @conigs @mrmikeflorio @eyedesyn ha, currently I buy books on the programs to replace those “trophies” 🙂 #mochat –9:31 PM EDT Apr 23rd, 2013
EllsDynamic @rovino Good evening, Ronn! #MoChat –9:32 PM EDT Apr 23rd, 2013
lasvideo Been cramming C4D last 2 weeks. Lucky I found @bendingpixels great tuts. on Lynda. #mochat –9:32 PM EDT Apr 23rd, 2013
VictorDeAnda @bran_dj How do you find remote work? I’ve relocated to Philly, there is a market here, but just discovering it. #mochat –9:33 PM EDT Apr 23rd, 2013
mographcandy @graymachine With every year that passes, No. Lived in LA in the early 2000’s stated as a PA on commercials and camera apprentice. #MOCHAT –9:33 PM EDT Apr 23rd, 2013
EllsDynamic @lasvideo Me, as well. @bendingpixels is fantastic with those! #mochat –9:33 PM EDT Apr 23rd, 2013
jasfish @ectect @conigs @bran_dj @lasvideo Twitter, vimeo, GSG, motionographer jobs; I’ve gotten work from all. Plus word of mouth. #mochat –9:33 PM EDT Apr 23rd, 2013
conigs @ectect @jasfish @bran_dj @lasvideo With FT, at least you have steady income. Talk to other designers or directors. Get name out. #mochat –9:33 PM EDT Apr 23rd, 2013
bran_dj @ectect My experience once leaving NYC was to keep freelancing for some of the same studios I worked w/ there for a few years … #mochat –9:33 PM EDT Apr 23rd, 2013
RagingClaw @EllsDynamic @lasvideo @bendingpixels rob is my c4d hero. he got me to think outside of the box when i started with c4d #mochat –9:34 PM EDT Apr 23rd, 2013
conigs @jasfish You got work from GSG? #mochat –9:34 PM EDT Apr 23rd, 2013
careyd IMHO secret to success (#1) is being driven by passion. You will only make it in this biz if you have passion for doing this work. #mochat –9:34 PM EDT Apr 23rd, 2013
careyd IMHO secret to success (#1b) That goes double or triple if you are going freelance or independent. #mochat –9:34 PM EDT Apr 23rd, 2013
justinhuskey @MotionChat I would love to work within a studio setting. The hardest with freelance is not being around more creative ppl. #mochat –9:34 PM EDT Apr 23rd, 2013
jasfish @conigs People contacted me from doing some of the 5 second projects. Got some decent work out of that. #mochat –9:34 PM EDT Apr 23rd, 2013
EllsDynamic Do any freelancers here use any other online resources (like Guru or eLance) to find work? Any problems with them? #MoChat –9:34 PM EDT Apr 23rd, 2013
bran_dj @ectect while also building up a body of independent work with my own clients (some pro-bono, etc) and lots of referrals … #mochat –9:34 PM EDT Apr 23rd, 2013
conigs @justinhuskey I do miss being around other designers who speak my language. #mochat –9:35 PM EDT Apr 23rd, 2013
careyd IMHO secret to success (#2) is learning contentment. Which is not the same thing as complacency. #mochat –9:35 PM EDT Apr 23rd, 2013
sedvideo @EllsDynamic I’ve always been suspect of those places. #mochat –9:35 PM EDT Apr 23rd, 2013
ectect @MotionChat #mochat currently FT at Austin PBS, working the ‘jack of all trades’ aspect producing/editing my own series, gfx for natl shows –9:35 PM EDT Apr 23rd, 2013
RagingClaw @EllsDynamic ive used guru before. ive only ever had 1 problem.. and it was a dozy #MoChat –9:35 PM EDT Apr 23rd, 2013
mrmikeflorio @careyd well like I say … Either you work because you love this shit or GTFO! #mochat –9:35 PM EDT Apr 23rd, 2013
bendingpixels @RagingClaw @EllsDynamic @lasvideo @bendingpixels Ironic because most of my projects start with a cube… #mochat –9:35 PM EDT Apr 23rd, 2013
eyedesyn @matthewsnagy Yeah, I’m done with the govt & politicals work in this area. Need more advertising gigs that allow more creativity. #mochat –9:35 PM EDT Apr 23rd, 2013
conigs @justinhuskey Though I guess that’s what Twitter and chats like this are for. #mochat –9:35 PM EDT Apr 23rd, 2013
graymachine @conigs That’s the tough part about working remotely from home, the lack of people around me to get ideas and inspiration from. #mochat –9:36 PM EDT Apr 23rd, 2013
mdvideoeditor YES!!! RT @mrmikeflorio: @careyd well like I say … Either you work because you love this shit or GTFO! #mochat –9:36 PM EDT Apr 23rd, 2013
ectect @conigs @jasfish @bran_dj @lasvideo step one gotta get my website looking nice this wkend. Thanks for the tips! #mochat –9:36 PM EDT Apr 23rd, 2013
RagingClaw @bendingpixels @EllsDynamic @lasvideo which is why you better sign up for @CubePong #mochat –9:36 PM EDT Apr 23rd, 2013
mrmikeflorio @jasfish @conigs really!? (maybe I should start doin the 5 second projects haha) #mochat –9:36 PM EDT Apr 23rd, 2013
EllsDynamic @sedvideo The only problem I’ve found are the VERY low budgets the clients have. Any other suggestions for resources? #mochat –9:36 PM EDT Apr 23rd, 2013
ChrisTarroza @graymachine was that a “you just never win either way” remark? #mochat –9:36 PM EDT Apr 23rd, 2013
careyd IMHO secret to success (#3): Find sustainability. Especially if you want to have a family. Right clients+Right projects+Fair rates. #mochat –9:36 PM EDT Apr 23rd, 2013
Motionworks #MOCHAT | Set up your twitter feed to follow key words such as freelance, mograph, 3D, Cinema 4D, After Effects etc. Great way to find work. –9:36 PM EDT Apr 23rd, 2013
RagingClaw @mrmikeflorio @jasfish @conigs ive thought about doing a 5 second project but never mustard up the nerve #mochat –9:36 PM EDT Apr 23rd, 2013
conigs @RagingClaw When’s the next one? Maybe I’ll actually do it. #mochat –9:36 PM EDT Apr 23rd, 2013
EllsDynamic @RagingClaw I’ve had a few issues there. It’s funny how many people have found ME through Guru, and not the other way around. #mochat –9:37 PM EDT Apr 23rd, 2013
jasfish @mrmikeflorio @conigs You’d be surprised how many hits your video will get on Vimeo, especially if it’s solid. #mochat –9:37 PM EDT Apr 23rd, 2013
justinhuskey @conigs haha. True. #mochat –9:37 PM EDT Apr 23rd, 2013
RagingClaw @conigs its may 2nd. go sign up son. #mochat –9:37 PM EDT Apr 23rd, 2013
bendingpixels @RagingClaw @EllsDynamic @lasvideo I will keep my promise!! #mochat –9:37 PM EDT Apr 23rd, 2013
eyedesyn @VictorDeAnda Philly huh? How are you liking it there? Philly is one of my potential cities. Hows the mograph market? #mochat –9:37 PM EDT Apr 23rd, 2013
EllsDynamic @RagingClaw @bendingpixels @lasvideo @CubePong Hmmm. I’m listening’! What is it? #mochat –9:37 PM EDT Apr 23rd, 2013
careyd IMHO secret to success (#4) is reinvest in yourself. Skills development, creative development, gear/software. Top of your game. #mochat –9:37 PM EDT Apr 23rd, 2013
RagingClaw @bendingpixels @EllsDynamic @lasvideo here ya go then http://t.co/eLEvktcZJ6 #mochat –9:38 PM EDT Apr 23rd, 2013
graymachine @ChrisTarroza I think it’s more about trying to appreciate what you have, really. I tend to lose focus on the “now”. #mochat –9:38 PM EDT Apr 23rd, 2013
MotionChat How many of you have families? How has that affected your choices in markets/career? #mochat –9:38 PM EDT Apr 23rd, 2013
jasfish @ectect @conigs @bran_dj @lasvideo Website is really key. Get it looking good & keep adding new work when possible. #mochat –9:38 PM EDT Apr 23rd, 2013
lasvideo I got 4,000 hits on a music video project….but none led to work 🙁 #mochat –9:38 PM EDT Apr 23rd, 2013
EllsDynamic @sedvideo They do, don’t they? #mochat –9:38 PM EDT Apr 23rd, 2013
mographcandy @EllsDynamic Those always seem like more trouble than they are worth. Better off spending time on you own project. #Mochat –9:38 PM EDT Apr 23rd, 2013
matthewsnagy @eyedesyn Haven’t done much political work. Lots of non-profit work for me. The creative work is out there. #mochat –9:38 PM EDT Apr 23rd, 2013
RagingClaw @EllsDynamic @bendingpixels @lasvideo @CubePong you mean you dont know? think of layer tennis but with c4d and a better system #mochat –9:38 PM EDT Apr 23rd, 2013
bran_dj @eyedesyn @matthewsnagy Oh my god. I need to switch with you. #mochat –9:39 PM EDT Apr 23rd, 2013
graymachine @MotionChat I have a wife, and 2 & 5 year old boys. Everything I do is ultimately for them. #mochat –9:39 PM EDT Apr 23rd, 2013
justinhuskey @conigs I think it helps my process to have friendly competition among peers though. Different for everyone though. #mochat –9:39 PM EDT Apr 23rd, 2013
jasfish @careyd Great advice, all 4 points. Especially love #2. #mochat #mochat –9:39 PM EDT Apr 23rd, 2013
MotionChat By the way… #mochat http://t.co/vDI3mELigS –9:39 PM EDT Apr 23rd, 2013
EllsDynamic @RagingClaw @bendingpixels @lasvideo @CubePong Reading up on it now. You may see me there soon enough. #mochat –9:39 PM EDT Apr 23rd, 2013
conigs @justinhuskey Nothing wrong with that. #mochat –9:40 PM EDT Apr 23rd, 2013
mrmikeflorio @RagingClaw @conigs it’s just the timing sucks … can’t you make it a weekend or something? #mochat –9:40 PM EDT Apr 23rd, 2013
EllsDynamic @mographcandy That is the vibe I’ve been getting lately. #mochat –9:40 PM EDT Apr 23rd, 2013
careyd RT @graymachine: @MotionChat I have a wife, and 2 & 5 year old boys. Everything I do is ultimately for them. #mochat –9:40 PM EDT Apr 23rd, 2013
sedvideo @MotionChat family has had huge impact on career choices for me. #mochat –9:40 PM EDT Apr 23rd, 2013
jasfish @MotionChat haha, 3 kids with a 4th on the way! Definitely affects choices 🙂 #mochat –9:40 PM EDT Apr 23rd, 2013
rovino @MotionChat All My Children is Trending?? Saweet!! #mochat –9:40 PM EDT Apr 23rd, 2013
ChrisTarroza @Motionworks what do you use to auto search twitter? #mochat –9:41 PM EDT Apr 23rd, 2013
EllsDynamic @RagingClaw @EugeneOpperman @RisingPixels It sounds like it! I’m fairly new to the C4D game, which is prob why it’s new to me. #mochat –9:41 PM EDT Apr 23rd, 2013
careyd @rovino LOL #mochat –9:41 PM EDT Apr 23rd, 2013
mdvideoeditor You do whatever it takes to put food on the table, and a roof over their heads. #mochat –9:41 PM EDT Apr 23rd, 2013
conigs @jasfish Congrats on No. 4! #mochat –9:42 PM EDT Apr 23rd, 2013
graymachine I chose LA to be near the work so I can provide for my family. But after a few years, I realized we couldn’t really settle there. #mochat –9:42 PM EDT Apr 23rd, 2013
careyd @EllsDynamic @conigs when is next AE User group meeting? Maybe double up on that? #mochat –9:42 PM EDT Apr 23rd, 2013
justinhuskey @graymachine Are there big things you wish you had learned prior to entering the market? #mochat –9:43 PM EDT Apr 23rd, 2013
mographcandy How’s the Seattle market these days in terms of work? #Mochat –9:43 PM EDT Apr 23rd, 2013
EllsDynamic @RagingClaw @EugeneOpperman @RisingPixels I’m watching a clip from it now. I’m definitely signing up for this. #mochat –9:43 PM EDT Apr 23rd, 2013
izzyatwork @careyd Good idea:) #mnAE #mochat –9:43 PM EDT Apr 23rd, 2013
graymachine @justinhuskey It was so gradual for me. Sound recording to audio post to video editing to graphics and then motion design. #mochat –9:43 PM EDT Apr 23rd, 2013
Motionworks @ChrisTarroza I set up columns in Tweetdeck for key words. #mochat –9:43 PM EDT Apr 23rd, 2013
careyd On taking gigs: I’ve always said: “There’s projects you do for love of the game, and those you do to stay in the game.” #mochat –9:43 PM EDT Apr 23rd, 2013
RagingClaw @Motionworks @ChrisTarroza that is exactly what i did john 🙂 #mochat –9:44 PM EDT Apr 23rd, 2013
Trevitacus Sorry to catch the end of #mochat. Still on the mend here. But I am up for a hangout for those interested 🙂 –9:44 PM EDT Apr 23rd, 2013
RagingClaw @EllsDynamic this time the theme is ‘evolution’ #mochat –9:45 PM EDT Apr 23rd, 2013
graymachine @justinhuskey So, I never really “entered” at one point, I inched my way in for about 5 years. Learned slowly over time. #mochat –9:45 PM EDT Apr 23rd, 2013
VictorDeAnda @careyd Nice quote! #mochat –9:45 PM EDT Apr 23rd, 2013
conigs @careyd @EllsDynamic That’s right. John somebody from a studio in NE runs it, right? (real specific…) #mochat –9:45 PM EDT Apr 23rd, 2013
EllsDynamic @careyd @conigs That sounds like a good idea. Is there an AE User Group meeting in MN? #mochat –9:45 PM EDT Apr 23rd, 2013
Trevitacus Going to be talking about recent inspiration, and c4d bits for the after #mochat hangout –9:45 PM EDT Apr 23rd, 2013
graymachine @careyd “Some for the meal and some for the reel.” #mochat –9:45 PM EDT Apr 23rd, 2013
careyd RT @graymachine: @careyd “Some for the meal and some for the reel.” #mochat –9:45 PM EDT Apr 23rd, 2013
matthewsnagy @careyd My mentor always said “Some projects you do for the reel, some you do for the meal.” #mochat –9:45 PM EDT Apr 23rd, 2013
Trevitacus Bring any tips/news/plugins you have found recently to the after #mochat hangout 🙂 –9:45 PM EDT Apr 23rd, 2013
quinniusmaximus Late to the party #mochat –9:46 PM EDT Apr 23rd, 2013
EllsDynamic @RagingClaw @EugeneOpperman @RisingPixels I’ll be signing up right after this! #mochat –9:46 PM EDT Apr 23rd, 2013
VictorDeAnda What is the ratio of decent work vs. work that makes it to your reel? #mochat –9:46 PM EDT Apr 23rd, 2013
RagingClaw @EllsDynamic @EugeneOpperman @RisingPixels you do it now son, right now lol #mochat –9:46 PM EDT Apr 23rd, 2013
ryansarnowski @conigs Do you want to edit some docs here in the midwest? #mochat –9:46 PM EDT Apr 23rd, 2013
lasvideo @ectect @conigs @jasfish @bran_dj Hi Eve. Sorry I havent responded. Im watching #mochat on the Tweetchat browser and I didnt see you there. –9:46 PM EDT Apr 23rd, 2013
bigmikedesign #mochat First job will never be your dream job. I cranked out a massive number of terrible local car commercials for chump change. –9:47 PM EDT Apr 23rd, 2013
MDSienzant RT @MotionChat: By the way… #mochat http://t.co/vDI3mELigS –9:47 PM EDT Apr 23rd, 2013
conigs @bigmikedesign I’d also say be careful of your dream job too. The whole “Never meet your heroes” thing. #mochat –9:47 PM EDT Apr 23rd, 2013
DavidBStanfield In Charlotte, NC. Moved here for print design job @ magazine. Was given opp to switch to mogfx within same company. Loving it. #mochat –9:47 PM EDT Apr 23rd, 2013
FakeGreenDress @bigmikedesign SO true. At 1st job I once had to babysit a dub of 10,000 VHS tapes about colon hydrotherapy. #mochat –9:48 PM EDT Apr 23rd, 2013
mographcandy @VictorDeAnda 1 to 10 #Mochat –9:48 PM EDT Apr 23rd, 2013
MDSienzant @MotionChat late on this. but major effect with the family. Wife didn’t want to move, so I stayed in the area. Rural area. #mochat –9:48 PM EDT Apr 23rd, 2013
RagingClaw @conigs @bigmikedesign i met @bendingpixels who is one of my heroes and he is awesome so screw that quote lol #mochat –9:48 PM EDT Apr 23rd, 2013
bigmikedesign #mochat But I learned how to work fast, meet impossible deadlines, and appreciate better assignments when I moved on. –9:48 PM EDT Apr 23rd, 2013
EllsDynamic @conigs @careyd I am very intrigued. Had no idea there was a User group in the Twin Cities. Doubling up sounds good. #mochat –9:48 PM EDT Apr 23rd, 2013
MotionChat We’re approaching the final 10 minutes of “official” #mochat time… –9:48 PM EDT Apr 23rd, 2013
ColtonGeil @bigmikedesign ha, and now you have a book, that’s cool. #mochat –9:49 PM EDT Apr 23rd, 2013
MDSienzant @motionchat but I’m happy and love my family, so its not a bad effect at all. I’d do it again in a heartbeat. #mochat –9:49 PM EDT Apr 23rd, 2013
RagingClaw @FakeGreenDress @bigmikedesign that sounds disturbing #mochat –9:49 PM EDT Apr 23rd, 2013
MotionChat If you could say something to your fresh/green self when you were starting out, what would it be? #mochat –9:49 PM EDT Apr 23rd, 2013
izzyatwork WOW time flys?! I wish my renders were this fast, hehe #mochat –9:49 PM EDT Apr 23rd, 2013
VictorDeAnda @mographcandy You mean for every 10 pieces, one makes it to your reel? #mochat –9:49 PM EDT Apr 23rd, 2013
eyedesyn @matthewsnagy Man, I must be looking in the wrong places or something. Most of my clients are from out of town. #mochat –9:50 PM EDT Apr 23rd, 2013
Trevitacus @MDSienzant @MotionChat Yeah, location is a big thing when it comes to following dream jobs #mochat –9:50 PM EDT Apr 23rd, 2013
MDSienzant @sedvideo @motionchat It has its disadvantages, but thankfully I’m close enough to some major cities to get some steady work. #mochat –9:50 PM EDT Apr 23rd, 2013
graymachine @bigmikedesign I did the same, at a corporate automotive production house in Detroit. Lots of quick jobs. I learned a lot. #mochat –9:50 PM EDT Apr 23rd, 2013
Andy_Tiyo RT @graymachine: @careyd “Some for the meal and some for the reel.” #mochat –9:50 PM EDT Apr 23rd, 2013
rovino ditto RT @RagingClaw: @conigs @bigmikedesign i met @bendingpixels who is one of my heroes and he is awesome so screw that quote lol #mochat –9:50 PM EDT Apr 23rd, 2013
conigs @MotionChat Don’t chase “high profile” work. Just do what’s interesting, especially the small stuff. #mochat –9:50 PM EDT Apr 23rd, 2013
ChrisTarroza @bigmikedesign I was so excited for my first job out of school and then…yeah, what you said. #mochat –9:50 PM EDT Apr 23rd, 2013
justinhuskey @graymachine that makes sense. Did you go to school for sound and then get a gig from that? Imagine it’s kinda similar #mochat –9:51 PM EDT Apr 23rd, 2013
ectect @lasvideo Ain’t no thang! Fun you have PBS background. Going from commercial to non-profit was confusing at 1st. #mochat –9:51 PM EDT Apr 23rd, 2013
Trevitacus @MotionChat Never sell yourself short! Ever! #mochat –9:51 PM EDT Apr 23rd, 2013
Andy_Tiyo RT @careyd: On taking gigs: I’ve always said: “There’s projects you do for love of the game, and those you do to stay in the game.” #mochat –9:51 PM EDT Apr 23rd, 2013
EllsDynamic Don’t ever be cocky. #mochat –9:51 PM EDT Apr 23rd, 2013
VictorDeAnda @conigs Totally agree. #mochat –9:51 PM EDT Apr 23rd, 2013
MDSienzant @Trevitacus @motionchat and honestly, I don’t know if my dream was chasing a big title or career. I’m happy and fortunate to do it #mochat –9:51 PM EDT Apr 23rd, 2013
TollyCarr RT @Motionworks: #MOCHAT | Set up your twitter feed to follow key words such as freelance, mograph, 3D, Cinema 4D, After Effects etc. Great way to find work. –9:51 PM EDT Apr 23rd, 2013
careyd @EllsDynamic @conigs MNAEUG http://t.co/EpmJlfb7pJ #mochat –9:52 PM EDT Apr 23rd, 2013
conigs @MotionChat Also, get in over your head. Then dig yourself out… or at least enough to see daylight. #mochat –9:52 PM EDT Apr 23rd, 2013
Motionworks #MOCHAT | Consistency, consistency, consistency. –9:52 PM EDT Apr 23rd, 2013
MDSienzant @JoelOtron @motionchat no clue that you were in the Philly area! #mochat –9:52 PM EDT Apr 23rd, 2013
EllsDynamic @careyd @conigs Thanks, man! Don’t know how I missed this. #mochat –9:52 PM EDT Apr 23rd, 2013
RagingClaw @MotionChat i would say dont worry what anyone thinks and do not listen when you are told you cant do it. #mochat –9:52 PM EDT Apr 23rd, 2013
bran_dj @VictorDeAnda Such a good question. Might be like 30% for the reel and 70% other … #mochat –9:52 PM EDT Apr 23rd, 2013
mdvideoeditor You will NEVER stop learning! #mochat –9:53 PM EDT Apr 23rd, 2013
EllsDynamic @Motionworks That’s a BIG one. #mochat –9:53 PM EDT Apr 23rd, 2013
matthewsnagy I’d tell myself the financial implications of being self-employed. They didn’t teach the business side of freelancing at my school. #mochat –9:53 PM EDT Apr 23rd, 2013
mrmikeflorio @Motionworks shouldn’t it be: work, get better, beer, sleep, work, get better, beer, sleep 😉 #mochat –9:53 PM EDT Apr 23rd, 2013
Trevitacus @MDSienzant @MotionChat Well, honestly, my biggest dream is to work for big productions and concepts, but from my house 🙂 #mochat –9:53 PM EDT Apr 23rd, 2013
izzyatwork RT @careyd: @EllsDynamic @conigs MNAEUG http://t.co/EpmJlfb7pJ #mochat –9:53 PM EDT Apr 23rd, 2013
bran_dj @MotionChat Don’t ever work for a company with an org chart. #mochat –9:54 PM EDT Apr 23rd, 2013
MotionChat And what would you ask your future self? #mochat –9:54 PM EDT Apr 23rd, 2013
charlie_gold Good chair #mochat –9:54 PM EDT Apr 23rd, 2013
JoelOtron What would I say to my young self? Work hard & remember client is the guy paying ur mortgage, Make them happy & become their go-to. #mochat –9:54 PM EDT Apr 23rd, 2013
DavidBStanfield Don’t cut corners. Don’t take shortcuts. Invest the time. Find work you have conviction & passion for. Give away your “secrets.” #mochat –9:54 PM EDT Apr 23rd, 2013
graymachine I think a lot of people get caught up in the idea of “I want to work at Blur/Buck/Blind”. Let it happen organically, don’t force it. #mochat –9:54 PM EDT Apr 23rd, 2013
careyd @Motionworks you know it. I think the client relationship trumps the current job at hand. Be a good person to work with. #mochat –9:54 PM EDT Apr 23rd, 2013
graymachine <- Works for a company with an org chart. @bran_dj #mochat –9:54 PM EDT Apr 23rd, 2013
VictorDeAnda @bran_dj Yeah, I feel the same. For every 3 pieces, 1 might make the reel. #mochat –9:54 PM EDT Apr 23rd, 2013
mdvideoeditor Was everything you did worth it to the people that saw it? RT @MotionChat: And what would you ask your future self? #mochat –9:55 PM EDT Apr 23rd, 2013
eyedesyn That’s a nice one. RT @conigs: @MotionChat Also, get in over your head. Then dig yourself out… or at least enough to see daylight. #mochat –9:55 PM EDT Apr 23rd, 2013
bran_dj @matthewsnagy I don’t think they teach that stuff anywhere. #mochat –9:55 PM EDT Apr 23rd, 2013
jasfish @MotionChat Stay out of debt as much as possible!! #mochat #mochat –9:55 PM EDT Apr 23rd, 2013
FredCamino RT @bran_dj: @MotionChat Don’t ever work for a company with an org chart. #mochat –9:55 PM EDT Apr 23rd, 2013
quinniusmaximus @bran_dj I’m working for a company with a very large org chart. And right now I like it. #mochat –9:55 PM EDT Apr 23rd, 2013
DavidBStanfield @bran_dj @motionchat ditto. Ouch. #mochat –9:55 PM EDT Apr 23rd, 2013
Motionworks #MOCHAT | My future self? That’s easy.. sports scores. –9:55 PM EDT Apr 23rd, 2013
graymachine @justinhuskey Yep, I went to http://t.co/fveDLqnVd5 and then progressed from there. #mochat –9:55 PM EDT Apr 23rd, 2013
MDSienzant @Trevitacus @motionchat Isn’t is awesome that we work in a field where stuff like that is feasible and possible? #mochat –9:56 PM EDT Apr 23rd, 2013
conigs @graymachine I thought about sending my first reel to @WeAreMK12. Happy just talking with @friedpixels & @mrburnstv, though. #mochat –9:56 PM EDT Apr 23rd, 2013
RagingClaw @MotionChat i would ask for some buffalo wings…. and i think i would comply #mochat –9:56 PM EDT Apr 23rd, 2013
bran_dj @graymachine I think the problem was that it was changing every week at the end there. That got weird. #mochat –9:56 PM EDT Apr 23rd, 2013
izzyatwork What would I say to my young self? Try everything, don’t sleep, FAIL a lot, try again, and above all, turn on AUTOSAVE:) #mochat –9:56 PM EDT Apr 23rd, 2013
conigs @MotionChat What did you regret not doing? #mochat –9:56 PM EDT Apr 23rd, 2013
matthewsnagy I’ve trusted my instincts from day one. If I can meet my own impossibly high standards, then the clients will love it. #mochat –9:56 PM EDT Apr 23rd, 2013
rovino “learn moar maths and AI, read everything” – words to my younger self & “dont get used to that hair..” #mochat –9:56 PM EDT Apr 23rd, 2013
MDSienzant @JoelOtron @motionchat there’s your answer @eyedesyn! Unfortunately. #mochat –9:56 PM EDT Apr 23rd, 2013
bran_dj RT @Motionworks: #MOCHAT | Consistency, consistency, consistency. –9:56 PM EDT Apr 23rd, 2013
Trevitacus @MotionChat You handsome Brute! Don’t you ever die! #mochat –9:56 PM EDT Apr 23rd, 2013
ChrisTarroza @MotionChat lottery numbers for this upcoming weekend? #mochat –9:57 PM EDT Apr 23rd, 2013
EllsDynamic @Motionworks You’re taking Biff’s route, huh? #BacktotheFuture2 #mochat –9:57 PM EDT Apr 23rd, 2013
justinhuskey @graymachine That’s cool. Like the “let it happen organically” post. Thanks for the replies, Harry. Great to learn from. #mochat –9:57 PM EDT Apr 23rd, 2013
MotionChat We’re just about out of “official” time… #mochat –9:57 PM EDT Apr 23rd, 2013
ChrisTarroza @conigs I regret not staying in contact with people from school. #mochat –9:58 PM EDT Apr 23rd, 2013
mediaguy777 RT @graymachine: @careyd “Some for the meal and some for the reel.” #mochat –9:58 PM EDT Apr 23rd, 2013
careyd Not exactly a regret, but as independent I’ve had to make my peace with not being able to punch out & stop thinking about work. #mochat –9:58 PM EDT Apr 23rd, 2013
sedvideo @rovino lol!#mochat –9:58 PM EDT Apr 23rd, 2013
rovino share your knowledge #mochat –9:58 PM EDT Apr 23rd, 2013
VictorDeAnda Copy the masters when you are starting out, after doing that for a while, you’ll develop your own voice. #mochat –9:58 PM EDT Apr 23rd, 2013
ectect @MotionChat PC or MAC? #mochat –9:59 PM EDT Apr 23rd, 2013
MDSienzant @MotionChat “Which took priority… your career or your family?” I love what I do, but I don’t want to miss out on life. #mochat –9:59 PM EDT Apr 23rd, 2013
MDSienzant RT @rovino: share your knowledge #mochat –9:59 PM EDT Apr 23rd, 2013
sedvideo @rovino I learned everything I know and love about AE from @rovino 🙂#mochat –9:59 PM EDT Apr 23rd, 2013
conigs @MDSienzant I love what I do. But I won’t let it be my life. #mochat –9:59 PM EDT Apr 23rd, 2013
bran_dj Hey and don’t make spec work. Do stuff that’s your own. That you OWN. #mochat –9:59 PM EDT Apr 23rd, 2013
graymachine @mediaguy777 I had about 5 years of meal gigs and then was laid off. That’s why I started doing tutorials because my reel sucked. #mochat –10:00 PM EDT Apr 23rd, 2013
mrmikeflorio @rovino knowledge is free and no one likes an asshole 😉 #mochat –10:00 PM EDT Apr 23rd, 2013
MDSienzant RT @conigs: @MDSienzant I love what I do. But I won’t let it be my life. #mochat –10:00 PM EDT Apr 23rd, 2013
careyd @MDSienzant @motionchat that is the hardest thing I struggle with–finding the balance. Even as I type this. #mochat –10:00 PM EDT Apr 23rd, 2013
DavidBStanfield @VictorDeAnda who are today’s Masters to you? #mochat –10:00 PM EDT Apr 23rd, 2013
rovino @sedvideo you poor poor bastard.. 8) #mochat –10:00 PM EDT Apr 23rd, 2013
RagingClaw RT @mrmikeflorio: @rovino knowledge is free and no one likes an asshole 😉 #mochat –10:00 PM EDT Apr 23rd, 2013
mdvideoeditor Career was 1st when you are young. Once you have a family, it is a juggling act until you get past 40. Then, it is family! #mochat –10:00 PM EDT Apr 23rd, 2013
qsjcraig Everything kind of changed for me when I became a parent. Wanted to stay close to family. #mochat –10:00 PM EDT Apr 23rd, 2013
Video_Rudy I have been a #mochat lurker for the last hour. Thanks @MotionChat –10:00 PM EDT Apr 23rd, 2013
friedpixels @MotionChat keep experimenting, keep learning, keep accepting challenges #mochat –10:00 PM EDT Apr 23rd, 2013
sedvideo @rovino 🙂#mochat –10:00 PM EDT Apr 23rd, 2013
VictorDeAnda @mrmikeflorio Amen to that! #mochat –10:01 PM EDT Apr 23rd, 2013
MotionChat This was a good turnout. Thanks for coming out everyone! But keep the conversation going. And @Trevitacus is running a hangout after #MoChat –10:01 PM EDT Apr 23rd, 2013
Andy_Tiyo RT @friedpixels: @MotionChat keep experimenting, keep learning, keep accepting challenges #mochat –10:01 PM EDT Apr 23rd, 2013
MotionChat Look for the #mochat transcript in the coming days. –10:01 PM EDT Apr 23rd, 2013
graymachine Did we win? #mochat –10:01 PM EDT Apr 23rd, 2013
MotionChat And as always, #GoMakeSomething! #mochat –10:01 PM EDT Apr 23rd, 2013