Last night, we talked all things plugins for After Effects. The official @AdobeAE account participated, as well as Steve Forde. Some 3rd party plugins that got attention of the night were:
- GM FoldLayers (as well as the Isolate & Zoro scripts)
- Nucleo Pro
- ReelSmart Motion Blur
- Frischluft Lens Care
- Element 3D
- Magic Bullet Looks
Bundled plugins weren’t left out either. Some favorites:
- Curves
- Turbulent Displace
- Turbulent Noise
- 3D Camera Tracker
- Box Blur
And briefly, we discussed the issues with licensing/installing plug-ins. The general consensus was Red Giant handles this really well, Video Copilot, not so much. I also asked Adobe if they were considering a standard API (or similar) to allow easier handling of serials/licensing right within AE. It sounded like it was a possibility, though I’m sure not for a long time.
And now, the transcript…
Transcript:
conigs All set to run #mochat from @urbanbeancoffee tonight. http://t.co/Z5XSNgo9 –8:00 PM Aug 14th, 2012
MotionChat Welcome to #mochat everyone! Tonight we’re talking our favorite @AdobeAE plugins. Some of our tricks & what might people not know about. –8:01 PM Aug 14th, 2012
KtIsabelle Hi #mochat. I’m in! #mochat –8:02 PM Aug 14th, 2012
rostenbach Anything that simulates folders is a game changer, in my opinion. #mochat –8:03 PM Aug 14th, 2012
conigs @KtIsabelle Welcome! #mochat –8:03 PM Aug 14th, 2012
ChromaShift #mochat aug20… pc 🙂 –8:04 PM Aug 14th, 2012
Oddernod Stressful two weeks and barely been online. Still more to swim through but happy to get back to a bit of normal. Who’s ready for #mochat ? –8:04 PM Aug 14th, 2012
AdobeAE A big shout-out to Toolfarm ( http://t.co/0EjRFGCd ) and aescripts+aeplugins ( http://t.co/YGtffGB4 ) for plug-ins. #mochat –8:04 PM Aug 14th, 2012
MotionChat To kick things off, who’s seen the new plugin for timeline “folders” from @goodmotionvfx? http://t.co/5MgCKQwh #mochat –8:04 PM Aug 14th, 2012
conigs Has anyone installed & run GM FoldLayers yet? Haven’t had a chance to. #mochat –8:05 PM Aug 14th, 2012
rostenbach @conigs I have it downloaded, but haven’t installed it yet. Little wary of doing it in the middle of a job. #mochat –8:06 PM Aug 14th, 2012
conigs @AdobeAE Definitely! Toolfarm support is great, too. And @aescripts just got a nice makeover. #mochat –8:07 PM Aug 14th, 2012
Oddernod One great thing about using ISOLATE was learning how to assign keyboard shortcuts to scripts thru Key’d Up http://t.co/AnfYIAR8 #mochat –8:07 PM Aug 14th, 2012
SamWelkerTV Skipping out on #mochat tonight, got too much work to do #Freelancing –8:07 PM Aug 14th, 2012
ReverbMike @conigs I’ve watched the video several times… still not sure how to use FoldLayers #Mochat –8:07 PM Aug 14th, 2012
conigs @ReverbMike Basically separate layers with a null whose name starts with “|”. Then layers below (or in between) hide & show. #mochat –8:08 PM Aug 14th, 2012
AdobeAE @conigs I still prefer the added power of Zorro. Better (for me) for sets of layers that aren’t contiguous. http://t.co/up6kjBdA #mochat –8:09 PM Aug 14th, 2012
AdobeAE RT @Oddernod: One great thing …was learning how to assign keyboard shortcuts to scripts thru Keyd Up http://t.co/P3RVOgSl #mochat –8:10 PM Aug 14th, 2012
rovino hello #mochat erz –8:10 PM Aug 14th, 2012
conigs @AdobeAE Zoro emulates the way layers work in C4D. I’m happy to have something that works like PS folders, insofar as isolation. #mochat –8:10 PM Aug 14th, 2012
conigs @rovino You’re late! 😉 #mochat –8:11 PM Aug 14th, 2012
AdobeAE @conigs That’s why it’s great that several folks are solving the problem in their own various ways. More choices for everyone. #mochat –8:11 PM Aug 14th, 2012
ReverbMike @conigs thanks… cant we already do that without adding another pugin? #Mochat –8:11 PM Aug 14th, 2012
Motionworks MOCHAT | I’m using GMFoldLayers right now. Seems to work well: #mochat –8:11 PM Aug 14th, 2012
Oddernod @AdobeAE @conigs this is where we start to appreciate how tough it is to implement layer folders – it’s multifaceted design problem #mochat –8:11 PM Aug 14th, 2012
A3twitt That plugin looks awesome. I’m waiting for the windows version to be available. @MotionChat @GoodmotionVFX #mochat –8:12 PM Aug 14th, 2012
rostenbach @conigs @AdobeAE I’ve not used Zorro, is this something I should be looking into? #Mochat –8:12 PM Aug 14th, 2012
conigs @ReverbMike It simplifies the process greatly. #mochat –8:12 PM Aug 14th, 2012
AdobeAE Exactly. RT @Oddernod: this is where we start to appreciate how tough it is to implement layer folders – multifaceted design problem #mochat –8:12 PM Aug 14th, 2012
KtIsabelle @conigs Does it function like parenting or just for shying groups on and off? #mochat –8:13 PM Aug 14th, 2012
conigs @rostenbach @AdobeAE Yes. Works like C4D layers. Basically tags layers in the comments, can hide or solo them based on that tag. #mochat –8:13 PM Aug 14th, 2012
Oddernod @rostenbach @conigs @AdobeAE it’s like C4D Layer Manager. Another thing to try is to use comments column in timeline & use searchbox #mochat –8:14 PM Aug 14th, 2012
Motionworks MOCHAT | GMFolderLayers does override the traditional Shy function though. #mochat –8:14 PM Aug 14th, 2012
conigs @KtIsabelle Turning on & off the null affects all the layers “nested” under it. Applies same layer color & soloing. #mochat –8:14 PM Aug 14th, 2012
conigs @Oddernod @rostenbach @AdobeAE I feel like the comments column is very underutilized. #mochat –8:14 PM Aug 14th, 2012
AdobeAE Steve Forde (@sforde) just told me that his favorite plug-in ever is Nucleo Pro. Funny that, seeing as how he made it. 😉 #mochat –8:15 PM Aug 14th, 2012
MotionChat RT @Motionworks: MOCHAT | I’m using GMFoldLayers right now. Seems to work well: #mochat –8:15 PM Aug 14th, 2012
Oddernod Anyone else out there use Launchpad to get a custom button panel for their scripts? #mochat http://t.co/1BIgOjXQ –8:15 PM Aug 14th, 2012
MotionChat RT @Motionworks: MOCHAT | GMFolderLayers does override the traditional Shy function though. #mochat –8:15 PM Aug 14th, 2012
rostenbach @Oddernod @conigs @AdobeAE If it’s that similar to C4d layers, the that’s a buy tonight. @#mochat –8:16 PM Aug 14th, 2012
A3twitt Great to know. I hope the windows version goes online very soon. I heard it will be available next week @Motionworks #mochat –8:16 PM Aug 14th, 2012
rostenbach @conigs @Oddernod @AdobeAE I’d agree there, in fact, I don’t use them terribly often, myself #mochat –8:16 PM Aug 14th, 2012
MotionChat @AdobeAE @sforde Care to sum Nucleo Pro up for the uninitiated? #mochat –8:16 PM Aug 14th, 2012
Oddernod @rostenbach @conigs @AdobeAE Zorro is an essential script, right next to Immigration, Keyd Up, and RepositionAnchorPoint for me #mochat –8:17 PM Aug 14th, 2012
AdobeAE @Oddernod I like LaunchPad ( http://t.co/zZUG0TNw ). Even better is ft-Toolbar: http://t.co/B9S02iIR #mochat –8:17 PM Aug 14th, 2012
conigs @fraserntukula commented that his favorite plugin is Reelsmart Motion Blur. I use that one quite a bit, too. #mochat –8:18 PM Aug 14th, 2012
A3twitt Haven’t heard of nucleo pro. What does it do? @AdobeAE @sforde #mochat –8:18 PM Aug 14th, 2012
rostenbach @Oddernod @conigs @AdobeAE Immigration is another I’m not familiar with, I’ll have to check up on that. #mochat –8:18 PM Aug 14th, 2012
Oddernod @MotionChat @AdobeAE @sforde Nucleo Pro did multiprocessing before AE did natively. Even more interesting was Gridiron Flow #mochat –8:18 PM Aug 14th, 2012
redefinery @Oddernod i do. 😉 #mochat –8:18 PM Aug 14th, 2012
AdobeAE @MotionChat Nucleo Pro does/did background rendering, caching renders to disk, et cetera. You may recognize some influence in CS6. #mochat –8:18 PM Aug 14th, 2012
rovino @Oddernod NO but that is badass #mochat… Ima learn that.. –8:18 PM Aug 14th, 2012
conigs One thing most people don’t know: you can use a negative value for blur amount & it will attempt to remove motion blur (to a point). #mochat –8:18 PM Aug 14th, 2012
rovino @conigs @fraserntukula just used it today as a matter of fact. #mochat –8:19 PM Aug 14th, 2012
AdobeAE @rostenbach Immigration is fabulous for making working with image sequences better and easier: http://t.co/FappWBKe #mochat –8:19 PM Aug 14th, 2012
AdobeAE @redefinery Hey, you’re supposed to be on vacation. 😉 #mochat –8:20 PM Aug 14th, 2012
ReverbMike @rovino @Oddernod yes! totally frees up some space. #mochat –8:20 PM Aug 14th, 2012
redefinery @AdobeAE @Oddernod agreed. françois’s is cool, although free is free. 😉 #mochat –8:20 PM Aug 14th, 2012
Oddernod After watching @Motionworks examples & seeing Andrew Kramer demo ELEMENT at SIGGRAPH I finally dove in – lots of power there #mochat –8:21 PM Aug 14th, 2012
lasvideo Im smitten with Element 3D. It opens up world of possibilities. Especially used with Camera Tracker. #mochat –8:21 PM Aug 14th, 2012
A3twitt Neither do I @rostenbach @AdobeAE @Oddernod @conigs #mochat –8:22 PM Aug 14th, 2012
AdobeAE @Oddernod Indeed. Element 3D is one heck of a 3D particle plug-in, and you can even use it for simple things beyond that. #mochat –8:22 PM Aug 14th, 2012
conigs @ITVteacher Still not showing up under a search for #mochat. I’d maybe talk to @support. –8:23 PM Aug 14th, 2012
rostenbach @AdobeAE Wow, that looks great. Not quite sure how that slipped under my radar. I’m going to end up dropping a few bucks tonight. #mochat –8:23 PM Aug 14th, 2012
990adjustments Has anyone tried out the new Knoll Lens factory? #mochat –8:24 PM Aug 14th, 2012
conigs @AdobeAE @Oddernod Think it’s the “simple” things that make it a game changer. If it we just particles, wouldn’t be as interesting. #mochat –8:24 PM Aug 14th, 2012
AdobeAE Anyone use Pixel Bender Kernel Accelerator? It runs Pixel Bender kernels on the GPU, even with AE CS6: http://t.co/bfZAQYNo #mochat –8:24 PM Aug 14th, 2012
eyedesyn @AdobeAE @sforde I can’t think of any plug in that was more revolutionary than the ability to render & be able to keep working #mochat –8:24 PM Aug 14th, 2012
MotionChat So can we get a commission on some of the cash @aescripts is getting tonight? #mochat –8:25 PM Aug 14th, 2012
lasvideo Another fav is Test Gear. Its nice to have scopes in AE that are realtime. #mochat –8:25 PM Aug 14th, 2012
A3twitt Me too, RSMB can save you hours on 3d renders @conigs @fraserntukula #mochat –8:25 PM Aug 14th, 2012
conigs @AdobeAE I’ve been curious about that. will that allow PBK files to run in CS6? #mochat –8:25 PM Aug 14th, 2012
eyedesyn @AdobeAE @sforde then again you missed out on precious Angry Birds time while rendering 😉 #mochat –8:25 PM Aug 14th, 2012
conigs @A3twitt Motion Blur & DoF are two things I almost always do in post. #mochat –8:26 PM Aug 14th, 2012
conigs @lasvideo I forgot about that one! #mochat –8:26 PM Aug 14th, 2012
AdobeAE @eyedesyn Agreed. Note that you can do that in After Effects CS6 now with Cache Work Area In Background. #mochat –8:26 PM Aug 14th, 2012
rovino Beam but Bezier on http://t.co/sMRjHwiP Mylenium basically pointed out a solution using a plugin in the oblsolete folder #mochat. –8:26 PM Aug 14th, 2012
A3twitt RT @AdobeAE: @rostenbach Immigration is fabulous for making working with image sequences better and easier: http://t.co/FappWBKe #mochat –8:26 PM Aug 14th, 2012
lasvideo Optical Flares really super charged what I could do with flares. And such a beautiful GUI! #mochat –8:26 PM Aug 14th, 2012
Oddernod You can dial down fancy rendering stuff in Element like reflections & use it as a real-time toon shader in AE #mochat http://t.co/miemgHVi –8:26 PM Aug 14th, 2012
MotionChat We will be talking about scripts exclusively again at a later date, just so everyone knows. #mochat –8:27 PM Aug 14th, 2012
AdobeAE @conigs Yes. Some caveats, but yes. That plug-in compiles PBK files into something that can run within the plug-in in AE CS6. #mochat –8:27 PM Aug 14th, 2012
Motionworks MOCHAT | @videocopilot Element 3D, like @trapcode Particular, will be one of those plug-ins all motion artists should know. #mochat –8:27 PM Aug 14th, 2012
rovino maybe not so obsolete afterall? #mochat http://t.co/lZUfdukc plugins continue to work.. –8:27 PM Aug 14th, 2012
MDSienzant @conigs @adobeae yes it will. PBK but not PBG files. I have a random assortment of PB plugs so $30 to take em to CS6 is great #mochat –8:28 PM Aug 14th, 2012
Oddernod @rovino That was a revelation when he revealed how he accomplished it. Great to see the mileage you can get out of old tools! #mochat –8:29 PM Aug 14th, 2012
AdobeAE The Pixel Bender Kernel Accelerator plug-in is a great example of what we hope that people will do with the APIs that we provide. #mochat –8:29 PM Aug 14th, 2012
MotionChat So, if everyone had to name the one single plugin they can’t work without, what would that be? #mochat –8:29 PM Aug 14th, 2012
lasvideo Mochas planar tracking really kicked AEs abilitys up several notches. #mochat –8:29 PM Aug 14th, 2012
rostenbach Frischluft is another valuable one. #Mochat –8:30 PM Aug 14th, 2012
rovino @conigs @A3twitt what do you use for DOF? I seem to recall a ” L”named plugin that does amazing lens blurs dont remember its name. #mochat –8:30 PM Aug 14th, 2012
AdobeAE Yes, we love mocha. RT @lasvideo: Mochas planar tracking really kicked AEs abilitys up several notches. #mochat –8:30 PM Aug 14th, 2012
eyedesyn @rostenbach @oddernod @conigs @adobeae what’s everyone’s favorite NATIVE AE effect? Mines Turbulent Displace I think. #mochat –8:30 PM Aug 14th, 2012
Oddernod @MotionChat I use Sure Target more than I care to admit. With Cinema 4D’s new camera tools and file import that might change #mochat –8:31 PM Aug 14th, 2012
rostenbach @MotionChat Perhaps MB Looks. Simple, but quite useful in post. #Mochat –8:31 PM Aug 14th, 2012
conigs @rovino @A3twitt Frischluft Lens Care: http://t.co/7Nb8DzZF #mochat –8:31 PM Aug 14th, 2012
ChromaShift #mochat dude! the new 3d tracker kicks! –8:31 PM Aug 14th, 2012
lasvideo One plugin I cant do without is using Boris 5 for unique and customizable transitions in Premiere Pro. #mochat –8:31 PM Aug 14th, 2012
rovino @rostenbach wait that might be what I was thinking of.. #mochat.. thanks RM –8:31 PM Aug 14th, 2012
conigs @eyedesyn I use Turbulent Noise for a whole lot. Especially any time I need blinky lights or sparkles. #mochat –8:32 PM Aug 14th, 2012
rovino @eyedesyn @rostenbach @oddernod @conigs @adobeae #mochat Ive been playing with cardwipe a lot lately.. –8:32 PM Aug 14th, 2012
Motionworks MOCHAT | Curves @eyedesyn #mochat –8:32 PM Aug 14th, 2012
SteveMylo @AdobeAE @lasvideo it’s good to have as many tracking options as possible , where 1 don’t work, the other will. love em all. #mochat –8:33 PM Aug 14th, 2012
A3twitt With Optical Flares I really forgot about checking new releases of the knoll factory @990adjustments #mochat –8:33 PM Aug 14th, 2012
ReverbMike @eyedesyn @rostenbach @oddernod @conigs @adobeae Track Camera is my new fav #mochat –8:33 PM Aug 14th, 2012
rostenbach @eyedesyn @Oddernod @conigs @AdobeAE Ilove turbulent displace, but I might have to go w/3D channel extract. Been very useful lately. #mochat –8:33 PM Aug 14th, 2012
grischatheissen @eyedesyn Ramp, Box Blur and Bezier Warp is pretty good #mochat –8:34 PM Aug 14th, 2012
eyedesyn @rostenbach @oddernod @conigs @adobeae @motionworks and my favorite simple expression is “time*x” for continuous animation #mochat –8:34 PM Aug 14th, 2012
conigs Speaking of OF, has anyone tried the new Knoll Light Factory release? #mochat @A3twitt #mochat –8:34 PM Aug 14th, 2012
lasvideo AE Camera Tracker is great. Especially since the Foundrys version doesnt work on PC CS6. Trying to help fix it with them. #mochat –8:34 PM Aug 14th, 2012
SteveMylo @AdobeAE @oddernod so is Element 3D a plugin or a separate program like cinema4D or 3dsMax? #mochat –8:34 PM Aug 14th, 2012
andrewcheyne Can’t let @sforde take all the credit for Nucleo Pro, @AdobeAE! #mochat –8:34 PM Aug 14th, 2012
conigs @eyedesyn Link that to a slider! No hardcoding! #mochat –8:35 PM Aug 14th, 2012
lasvideo Nope. 😀 RT @conigs: Speaking of OF, has anyone tried the new Knoll Light Factory release? #mochat @A3twitt #mochat –8:35 PM Aug 14th, 2012
A3twitt Cool use of Element 3D @Oddernod #mochat –8:35 PM Aug 14th, 2012
KidMograph Fav Native AE effects: Turbulent Displace, Displacement Map, Fractal Noise, Mesh Warp, Grid 🙂 #mochat –8:35 PM Aug 14th, 2012
rostenbach @eyedesyn @oddernod @conigs @adobeae @motionworks As far as expressions, I’m in love with bounce and overshoot http://t.co/btNdqSWs #mochat –8:35 PM Aug 14th, 2012
MotionChat Okay, what’s one plugin you use in a ninja-like way that people wouldn’t think of? #mochat –8:35 PM Aug 14th, 2012
Oddernod Plugins should use the 3D Point Control now rather than have an X & Y and then a separate Z channel. I’m looking at you Trapcode 🙂 #mochat –8:36 PM Aug 14th, 2012
rovino RT @conigs: @eyedesyn Link that to a slider! No hardcoding! #mochat –8:36 PM Aug 14th, 2012
Oddernod @SteveMylo @AdobeAE Plugin that takes in static OBJ files and lets you light, clone, texture, and animate them #mochat –8:36 PM Aug 14th, 2012
rostenbach @MotionChat Before RSMB, I used to use the Time Warp effect to add motion blur to my renders. #mochat –8:37 PM Aug 14th, 2012
Oddernod @lasvideo Really? I just dl’d the update and played with it in Windows 7 + CS6 I think. #mochat –8:37 PM Aug 14th, 2012
conigs @Oddernod I’d actually love it if they would also be able to be separated. No more linking to 3D nulls, or at least less linking. #mochat –8:38 PM Aug 14th, 2012
ReverbMike @rostenbach @eyedesyn @oddernod @conigs @adobeae @motionworks I probably over use bounce and inertia #mochat –8:39 PM Aug 14th, 2012
rovino @MotionChat Im thinking of doing a tutorial using the movement control in SureTarget but exporting the KF into C4D. #mochat #SureTargetFTW –8:39 PM Aug 14th, 2012
conigs @MotionChat I mentioned RSMB to remove blur. But I also use CC Composite & Calculations to dial down/adjust affects of effects. #mochat –8:39 PM Aug 14th, 2012
lasvideo @Oddernod Tracking works fine but hangs on Solve. AE stops responding. Foundry has had several reports of this issue #mochat –8:40 PM Aug 14th, 2012
sforde just got in – sorry had a dinner date! 😉 #mochat –8:40 PM Aug 14th, 2012
conigs @sforde Slacker. 😉 #mochat –8:40 PM Aug 14th, 2012
AdobeAE @sforde We’ve already sung the praises of Nucleo Pro. #mochat –8:41 PM Aug 14th, 2012
rostenbach @rovino it actually can work quite well, but your render time sure does take a hit. #mochat –8:41 PM Aug 14th, 2012
sforde Ha! See Andrew Cheyne in here – he had a BIG hand in making Nucleo Pro a reality for sure! #mochat –8:41 PM Aug 14th, 2012
lasvideo Love the AE Tracker, but Foundrys has more ability to refine track. I hope they fix it soon. #mochat –8:41 PM Aug 14th, 2012
Motionworks MOCHAT | Thanks @AdobeAE. I created that to teach myself Curves… something all designers should know how to use! #mochat –8:41 PM Aug 14th, 2012
ReverbMike @Oddernod agreed.. I use a null to get around that tho…much easier to deal with #mochat –8:41 PM Aug 14th, 2012
Oddernod @conigs @MotionChat I need to get my head around Calculations. Usually end up dropping effects on Adjusment Layer & dialing opacity #mochat –8:41 PM Aug 14th, 2012
rovino gah keep forgetting to add #mochat tag.. –8:41 PM Aug 14th, 2012
MotionChat @sforde So, aside from Nucleo Pro, what’s one of your favorite plugins? Third or 1st party? #mochat –8:42 PM Aug 14th, 2012
lasvideo @rovino Go to Tweetchat. Its so much easier! #mochat –8:42 PM Aug 14th, 2012
conigs @Oddernod It’s great for pulling in specific channels or even “resetting” a layer mid effects stack on-demand. #mochat –8:43 PM Aug 14th, 2012
sforde I have to admit i’ve always thought Peder’s stuff for Trapcode was amazing. MIR looks cool #mochat –8:43 PM Aug 14th, 2012
Oddernod @MotionChat @sforde Thanks for joining Steve! I mentioned Gridiron Flow earlier – wish more people adopted that tool #mochat –8:43 PM Aug 14th, 2012
sforde Red Giant’s been knocking it out of the park for sometime now as well – solid stuff #mochat –8:44 PM Aug 14th, 2012
conigs @sforde MIR is great! I can’t wait to see what people do when they wrap their heads around it. #mochat –8:44 PM Aug 14th, 2012
A3twitt It’s a plugin, very similar style of Optical Flares plugin, not it’s function but it’s UI @SteveMylo @AdobeAE @Oddernod #mochat –8:44 PM Aug 14th, 2012
A3twitt In haven’t @conigs #mochat –8:45 PM Aug 14th, 2012
sforde Lately I’ve really been into scripts as well – immigration, PT_everything, zorro #mochat –8:45 PM Aug 14th, 2012
Oddernod @JoelOtron Real-time shadows + 3D space management w other plugins should be next for Element. Normalizing scale throws it all off #mochat –8:45 PM Aug 14th, 2012
lasvideo @sforde and RGS makes it easy to purchase, download, install and update there stuff!! #mochat –8:45 PM Aug 14th, 2012
rostenbach @conigs @oddernod Apparently this something I need to check out, as well. #mochat –8:45 PM Aug 14th, 2012
AdobeAE @sforde Indeed. Paul said that we’d talk scripts another night. But I agree with the “pt_ everything” comment. #mochat –8:46 PM Aug 14th, 2012
westonWoodbury @lasvideo @sforde I enjoy their licensing too. Done right. #mochat –8:46 PM Aug 14th, 2012
lasvideo @conigs MIR is probably the only thing that Peder has created that I wont buy. To esoteric for my needs. #mochat –8:46 PM Aug 14th, 2012
rovino @Oddernod real-time shadows would be killer #mochat –8:46 PM Aug 14th, 2012
sforde @lasvideo brings important question: how much do installs, serial numbers and updates give pause to buying plugins? #mochat –8:47 PM Aug 14th, 2012
Oddernod @sforde What does the Adobe team think of the workflow scripts popping up lately like Isolate & GM Fold Layers? #mochat –8:47 PM Aug 14th, 2012
conigs @lasvideo It definitely has a specific look. I worry it will suffer from “plexus syndrome” where people won’t push beyond basics. #mochat –8:47 PM Aug 14th, 2012
MotionChat RT @sforde: @lasvideo brings important question: how much do installs, serial numbers and updates give pause to buying plugins? #mochat –8:47 PM Aug 14th, 2012
AdobeAE Good question. RT @sforde important question: how much do installs, serial numbers and updates give pause to buying plugins? #mochat –8:47 PM Aug 14th, 2012
sforde @Oddernod short answer – awesome. Solve real problems fast. sometimes faster than we can #mochat –8:48 PM Aug 14th, 2012
lasvideo @sforde Honestly, I wont deal with Tool Farm after several frustrating experiences with those processes. #mochat –8:48 PM Aug 14th, 2012
conigs @sforde Licensing is a big issue. I just want a serial to enter. I hate having to activate/deactivate plugins. (Foundry, VCP, e.g.) #mochat –8:48 PM Aug 14th, 2012
Oddernod @sforde I’ve been happy w @RedGiantNews handling of installs/serials. And the new @aescripts makes updating/installing much easier #mochat –8:48 PM Aug 14th, 2012
conigs Just curious. Who do you think has the best/worst install process for plugins? #mochat –8:49 PM Aug 14th, 2012
robotika_org @Oddernod @conigs @MotionChat I think a lot of us do that. ;P #mochat –8:49 PM Aug 14th, 2012
rovino My biggest gripe is EVERY time I upload or reload a plugin I’m asked to register it. I already did! why do I need to again? #mochat –8:49 PM Aug 14th, 2012
MotionChat 10 minutes of #mochat left! –8:50 PM Aug 14th, 2012
Oddernod @conigs @lasvideo Lots of untapped potential when you get Mir, Particular, and Plexus working together. Same w Element #mochat –8:50 PM Aug 14th, 2012
AdobeAE @Oddernod We’re very pleased that people are using various interfaces (scripting, plug-in API) to make extnesions that help everyone #mochat –8:50 PM Aug 14th, 2012
Motionworks MOCHAT | @trapcode MIR is super responsive and easy to experiment for interesting looks @lasvideo @conigs #mochat –8:50 PM Aug 14th, 2012
conigs @Oddernod It would be interesting to get vertex positions out of Mir to feed other 3D uses. #mochat –8:51 PM Aug 14th, 2012
rovino @conigs Optical Flares is a total install nightmare to me. launch AE, install, copy code, log into web site copy new code launch AE #mochat –8:51 PM Aug 14th, 2012
AdobeAE @Oddernod … It’s why we put so much into creating and testing and maintaining these interfaces. #mochat –8:51 PM Aug 14th, 2012
sforde i remember at GridIron we were frustrated by many customers not using just because headache of yet another install, serial etc. #mochat –8:51 PM Aug 14th, 2012
sforde Glad to see RedGiant and AeScripts innovating in that way #mochat –8:52 PM Aug 14th, 2012
conigs @rovino So true. Element made it a little better with entering login info right in the plugin, but still pretty ridiculous. #mochat –8:52 PM Aug 14th, 2012
BrokenAntler I’m looking forward to playing around with both @RedGiantNews Mir and VC Elements #mochat –8:52 PM Aug 14th, 2012
rostenbach @Oddernod @conigs I think my favorite, too, is the way @RedGiantNews installs work. Smooth as butter. #Mochat –8:52 PM Aug 14th, 2012
bryancapri @conigs best- trapcode. worst- video copilot. #mochat –8:52 PM Aug 14th, 2012
conigs @sforde @adobeAE has there ever been any thought put into a standard, API-based serial registry within After Effects? #mochat –8:52 PM Aug 14th, 2012
conigs Installers. Truth. “@bryancapri: @conigs best- trapcode. worst- video copilot. #mochat” –8:53 PM Aug 14th, 2012
A3twitt I also use CC composite along with other default AE plugins to create a lightwrap @conigs @Oddernod #mochat –8:53 PM Aug 14th, 2012
lasvideo @Oddernod Agreed. Element opens up AE to design possibilitys that make my head explode…in a good way 😀 #mochat –8:53 PM Aug 14th, 2012
rovino and yet guess what I end up using most of the time.. #bling! #mochat –8:53 PM Aug 14th, 2012
JHazelAva Incredible! RT @conigs @Oddernod It would be interesting to get vertex positions out of Mir to feed other 3D uses. #mochat –8:53 PM Aug 14th, 2012
robotika_org @conigs @Oddernod Heck-to-the-yes. #mochat –8:53 PM Aug 14th, 2012
BrokenAntler @bryancapri agree with @conigs #mochat –8:53 PM Aug 14th, 2012
robotika_org RT @conigs: @Oddernod It would be interesting to get vertex positions out of Mir to feed other 3D uses. #mochat –8:54 PM Aug 14th, 2012
Oddernod @conigs Exactly! Imagine mousing over Mir to get vertex control/pickwhip to drive Particular emitters. Or at least coordinate info. #mochat –8:54 PM Aug 14th, 2012
ColtonGeil I honestly don’t have a problem with the installing process. I understand they don’t want their stuff ripped off. #mochat #mochat –8:54 PM Aug 14th, 2012
sforde @conigs Good question. Our partners are a BIG deal to us, and I think we can make some real headway on this in the future #mochat –8:54 PM Aug 14th, 2012
rovino I totally like this. http://t.co/3v94N6NG #mochat –8:55 PM Aug 14th, 2012
Oddernod @sforde @conigs Love to see some type of Adobe Exchange login w registered partners to put together installers for purchased plugins #mochat –8:55 PM Aug 14th, 2012
BrokenAntler @lasvideo @oddernod yep, I’ve already taken on a project that I wouldn’t normally have done because of the potential of elements #mochat –8:55 PM Aug 14th, 2012
MotionChat 5 minutes left of #mochat. To finish up, is there a plugin you wish existed, but doesn’t? –8:56 PM Aug 14th, 2012
sforde Ya – Element and AtomKraft really making 3D a first class citizen in Ae. #mochat –8:56 PM Aug 14th, 2012
lasvideo @BrokenAntler Very cool. #mochat –8:56 PM Aug 14th, 2012
Oddernod @MotionChat A Krakatoa-like plugin for Particular 🙂 #mochat –8:57 PM Aug 14th, 2012
rovino I’ll tell you what I’d like to see.. soundkeys revamped.. easier UI well easier for me. 8) #mochat –8:57 PM Aug 14th, 2012
KidMograph i would love to test Atomkraft #mochat –8:58 PM Aug 14th, 2012
bryancapri @MotionChat I want a plugin that invoices for me. #mochat –8:58 PM Aug 14th, 2012
conigs One thing I’d like to see is all 3D “generator” plugins like particular & Element output depth channels to do better compositing. #mochat –8:58 PM Aug 14th, 2012
ColtonGeil @bryancapri Ha, I actually thought there was something that at least keeps track of time? #mochat –8:59 PM Aug 14th, 2012
Motionworks MOCHAT | What are your thoughts on Zaxwerks 3D Invigorator and where it fits in the 3D landscape with After Effects now? #mochat –8:59 PM Aug 14th, 2012
rostenbach @MotionChat Not too long ago, I would have said something that let imprt my c4d files in AE #Mochat –8:59 PM Aug 14th, 2012
AdobeAE @bryancapri It doesn’t invoice, but here’s a time tracker for After Effects: http://t.co/lMZIMsju #mochat –8:59 PM Aug 14th, 2012
robotika_org @MotionChat Simple collision detection. #mochat –9:00 PM Aug 14th, 2012
BrokenAntler @lasvideo fingers crossed, just got to learn it first 🙂 #mochat –9:00 PM Aug 14th, 2012
sforde Sorry I was late to the game folks – will be here earlier next time! #mochat –9:00 PM Aug 14th, 2012
rovino @Motionworks I have not thought of Zaxwerks in several years.. Sorry #mochat –9:00 PM Aug 14th, 2012
AdobeAE @Motionworks Invigorator is great, especially with the new ray-tracing features in the recent version. Pretty. #mochat –9:00 PM Aug 14th, 2012
sforde RT @AdobeAE: @Motionworks Invigorator is great, especially with the new ray-tracing features in the recent version. Pretty. #mochat –9:01 PM Aug 14th, 2012
KidMograph @MotionChat Dynamics in 3d space along with 3d objects #mochat –9:01 PM Aug 14th, 2012
PaulZadie @MotionChat It’s probably been said, but everything from @RedGiantNews rules. It’s hard to pick a favorite. #MoChat –9:02 PM Aug 14th, 2012
Motionworks MOCHAT | Has the wow-factor and drag and drop simplicity of Element 3D stolen 3D Invigorator’s thunder? #mochat –9:02 PM Aug 14th, 2012
Oddernod @KidMograph @MotionChat Yes! Bullet Physics built into After Effects would blow people away #mochat –9:03 PM Aug 14th, 2012
ColtonGeil I’ve got to say, I am loving the environment mapping in Element (since I didn’t upgrade to CS6 yet) #mochat –9:03 PM Aug 14th, 2012
conigs @Motionworks I think so. I think most people never really wanted to put the effort into really learning 3D Invigorator. #mochat –9:04 PM Aug 14th, 2012
AdobeAE @Motionworks I think people misunderstand with surface glances at Element 3D & Invigorator that they do the same thing. They don’t. #mochat –9:04 PM Aug 14th, 2012
MotionChat Alright, everyone. That does it for the “official” #mochat, but as always, feel free to continue the conversation. –9:04 PM Aug 14th, 2012
MotionChat Big thanks to @AdobeAE and @sforde stopping by. Always great to have anyone from the Adobe team here. #mochat –9:04 PM Aug 14th, 2012
MotionChat Barring any technical difficulties like last week, the transcript should be up on @MotionLeague tomorrow. #mochat –9:04 PM Aug 14th, 2012
AdobeAE @MotionChat Thanks for letting us hang out. We always learn a lot. #mochat –9:05 PM Aug 14th, 2012
Oddernod Surprised that Boris, Digieffects, and Sapphire suites weren’t mentioned at all during tonight’s After Effects plugin talk #mochat –9:05 PM Aug 14th, 2012
conigs @AdobeAE Like we would ever say “No, please don’t participate! Don’t listen to us!” #mochat –9:06 PM Aug 14th, 2012